JO: But a month, if not a week.

V: If not a month, maybe once a week.

JO: Do you see a lot of money around, do you think?

V: Yes.

JO: Because what I am seeing a lot of …. obviously one knows what one has to look for but I am certainly seeing a lot of poverty. Everywhere I’ve been so far – the South West, three days, Wales, three days, now the West Midlands – there are people begging all over the place wherever you go. It’s in your face.

V: It is, yes. It certainly is on the streets of Birmingham, as well.

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